This is a bus...

You can only see two of the wheels, but trust me there are four.

Also we got a windshield and a grill.

Some lights.

That door on the side is how you get inside.

Walk up the steps and you'll find a driver's seat and a steering device (similar to the one in your car).

Take a long good look because being able to identify a bus is the first step to being able to tell whether or not you've been... well... another picture is in order:

This is what being thrown under a bus might look like...

...and suffice to say if you are reading this blog and you are not bleeding in some way or in a hospital room or currently on the phone with 911... well, you've probably not been ACTUALLY thrown under a bus.

Oh, and while we're clarifying things, THIS...

...would be a graphic approximation of being stabbed in the back.

Check for warm blood soaking into your shirt and searing pain between your shoulder blades.

Like with the unfortunate bus incident... we're talking a "gots to go to the hospital" situation.

I reference the above because as pissed as I am about the coming FISA debacle and as wrong-headed and small-minded I believe the current legislation to be, I also know the difference between things that are political and personal, which brings me to the tally for the latest FISA vote...

On one side of the aisle you have 128 people willing to fight for the constitution on the other you have 1.

On one side of the aisle you have a MAJORITY of people trying to defend the rule of law, on the other... what's the phrase for ALL-1? You know, like a gaggle of geese? Maybe "A Pathos of Cowards" or a "Shame of Lemmings" or possibly a "Crisis of Moralputions"?

Don't think your friends treated you well? At least remind yourself what your NOT friends are up to.  

Really... truly... now is not the time to take your ball and go home.

Its a time to take your ball and toss it through a few windows and start screaming.

Going home only means you're sitting alone... in the dark... on a couch... with a ball.



Display:


And thank you for those who... (2.00 / 10)

...helped me get the images is this #@!@ thing.


by Lieber on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 08:01:29 PM EST

Re: And thank you for those who... (2.00 / 3)

nothing for nothing. this a beauty of post. regardless of what side you are on the FISA issue.

Mojo'ed you


Rise / Repeat / But for god's sake don't spin!
by aliveandkickin on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 08:16:53 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: And thank you for those who... (2.00 / 3)

and rec'ed . I dont agree w/ you in spirit. but well put and written  w/ humor .


Rise / Repeat / But for god's sake don't spin!
by aliveandkickin on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 08:17:58 PM EST
[ Parent ]

lol (1.00 / 2)

mc Cain agrees with you.

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by Is This Snark on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 08:29:36 PM EST
[ Parent ]

THAT'S the Spirit! (2.00 / 1)

"and rec'ed . I dont agree w/ you in spirit. but well put and written  w/ humor ."

That's precisely what we need around here.  Both well written diaries and folks willing to rec them for quality without having to agree!

Mojo for both you silly buggers!

-chris


Motley Moose, Troll Free Blogging
by chrisblask on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 12:26:21 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: This is a bus... (2.00 / 2)

Hah!  You got pictures!  You're a better poster than I am.


Purity! Or else!
by ChitownDenny on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 08:18:11 PM EST

Only by posting ANOTHER diary... (2.00 / 2)

...asking how.


by Lieber on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 08:19:35 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Images (none / 0)

Google "Free image hosting"

One site is tinypic.com

Upload an image

Then paste in the html it gives you. Something like this:

(a href="http://tinypic.com" target="_blank">(img src="http://i29.tinypic.com/2lxtow9.gif" border="0" alt="Image and video hosting by TinyPic"></a)</p>

In this example html I replaced some of the "<"s with "(" so it would show the html code.  To work with MyDD you also have to remove the target="_blank" or you will get an error.

With the "target" deleted and the angle brackets in it looks like this:

Image and video hosting by TinyPic

Hit Preview to make sure it works before you post and you should be OK.

-chris


Motley Moose, Troll Free Blogging
by chrisblask on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 12:37:01 AM EST
[ Parent ]

So what should I do? (2.00 / 1)

My 'Democratic' congressman is one of the 105 that voted against fighting for the constitution.

How would you vote in November given this? Support the 'Democrat', or not?


by Coldblue on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 08:22:19 PM EST

If he or she is the only Democrat on the ticket... (2.00 / 1)

...hence the only one who can prevent a Republican (AKA the people who voted 188-1 against the Constitution) then toy vote for him or her and try to get someone to primary them next time out.


by Lieber on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 08:24:53 PM EST
[ Parent ]

So the issue (2.00 / 1)

is second to voting for the party?


by Coldblue on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 08:33:32 PM EST
[ Parent ]

When the alternative is... WHAT exactly? (none / 0)

Again, note what electing a Republican does on this issue.


by Lieber on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 08:53:26 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Wake up (none / 0)

Note what electing faux Democrats does to this issue.


by Coldblue on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 09:13:28 PM EST
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It's hard to beat incumbents (none / 0)

But easy (or, easier) to mount a primary challenge.

Put the pseudo-Democrat in office today, back a Democratic primary challenger in 2010, and if they win you'll have what you want.

Put a Republican in office today, and you'll be unlikely to have a chance in 2010.


Proud member of the Wikipedia Generation of American politics
by BishopRook on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 09:56:59 PM EST
[ Parent ]

If incumbants (none / 0)

are hard to beat, it is even harder for a primary challenger from the same party to prevail.


by Coldblue on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 10:09:20 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Not necessarily (none / 0)

Since primary voters tend to be the "activist base" while general election voters are less politically active/informed and generally rely more on name recognition.

Grassroots campaigns can unseat an entrenched incumbent in a primary even if that incumbent would win the general election--see Lamont vs. Lieberman.

Of course, usually the incumbent who was defeated in the primary gracefully steps aside, rather than running as an independent...


Proud member of the Wikipedia Generation of American politics
by BishopRook on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 10:14:44 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Very isolated instance (none / 0)

don't you think?

I'm sure that there are some other examples that show where an incumbent (without a scandal) was defeated by a primary challenger but none come to mind.


by Coldblue on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 10:30:57 PM EST
[ Parent ]

I guess you have to look at the (none / 0)

entire voting record of both.  And then you have to weigh it against the platform of both parties...the Republicans are known for voting as a block.  Even if your Democrat is sometimes on the wrong side of things if it gives us the party chairmanships, etc. it gives the Democratic platform the edge.


That One is the Right One for 2008.
by GFORD on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 10:02:50 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: So the issue (2.00 / 1)

Did you see/read what JJ jr. and others told incumbents who didn't toe the line and vote for Obama?

Vote the way we want you to or face a challenge.  The quickest way to get your elected representative's attention is to utter those words, and then start a petition/letter writing drive.  Each written formatted letter counts for 10 phone calls (it's how the political offices count opinion-stupid I know but it's how it's done).  1000 letters=10,000 phone calls.  
They will get the hint...and if not start shopping a candidate and get ready to join the campaign to replace that DEM w/ someone who actually values the Constitution.


He that lives upon hope, will die fasting. -Ben Franklin
by TxDem08 on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 09:09:52 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: So what should I do? (2.00 / 1)

If this issue is important enough to you then you should work to get a challenger for your representative in the next primary. That's pretty much how democracy works.


"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good." Samuel Johnson
by MS01 Indie on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 08:25:51 PM EST
[ Parent ]

But what about (2.00 / 1)

this year?


by Coldblue on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 08:34:00 PM EST
[ Parent ]

This year, I think you just have to suck it up. (2.00 / 2)

That's how the system works.  Unless you live in a Congressional district that... well, doesn't really exist, there are two people who stand a realistic chance at being your representative in Congress.  One is a Democrat, who might not vote the way you want all the time, but will more than likely vote the way you want at least some of the time.  The other is a Republican who, unless he/she is of the same mindset as that 1 in the table above, will more than likely not vote the way you want, ever.

Now, in a year or so, you might want to encourage  a primary opponent to your current representative.  But until then, whether you like it or not, it looks like it's either a milquetoast Democrat or an actual Republican.


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by mistersite on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 08:45:20 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Thanks for your advice (none / 0)

But the House is is not going swing on my congressman. I was looking for a reason to support a candidate that doesn't share my views, other than the fact that he is a fellow Democrat.

Your suggestion to suck it up could be countered with applying chemotherapy when necessary.


by Coldblue on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 09:04:30 PM EST
[ Parent ]

You're not talking chemotherapy (none / 0)

You're talking handing the body over to the cancer and hoping that it'll thus be easier to cure in a couple years.


Proud member of the Wikipedia Generation of American politics
by BishopRook on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 09:58:48 PM EST
[ Parent ]

In chemo (none / 0)

You have to kill all to get rid of the bad.


by Coldblue on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 10:12:29 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: In chemo (2.00 / 1)

You can't hold a congressional seat vacant for two years and wait for a good Democrat to run.  Either get the bad Democrat primaried, or suck it up.

Blame the two-party system.  When Democrats lose to Republicans, the lessons they learn are usually that they weren't conservative enough (which I assume is the opposite of the direction you want to push the party).


by GenaMeana on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 09:49:18 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Thanks for your advice (2.00 / 1)

Call/write your state party. Put pressure on them, remeber shit rolls down hill and picks up steam as it goes along.

Put pressure on your Party Chair, Co-Chair if you have one, Treasurer, etc.  All top Party Chairs to bring that person in line.  Then contact his/her biggest financier's (they may actually support the position, but usually they sell something-and when their bottom line is affected they will change thier tune much more quickly than an off-election year congressman).

Contact your County chair, put a letter together and make it known that this DEM is persona non grata unless they change their vote, and make it known.  Write letters and send B-roll  to the local television stations (most will not pick it up-but if it's a slow day you never know), and state why the Congressman/woman is losing your support.  Start a web-site and start blasting them every day on why they need to change their "view" or face changing jobs.

The one very good thing about the DEM party now, is that in the last 4 years they have become really, really sensitive to grass-roots uprisings.  It will be HARD work, but you can get the message sent.  It will be to late for FISA, but you can send the message non the less.  And if their Republican friends come to their aid...well there is your campaign fodder for next year.


He that lives upon hope, will die fasting. -Ben Franklin
by TxDem08 on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 09:19:50 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: But what about (2.00 / 1)

It depends on what choices you have in November. Is there an independent running who says they oppose this bill? If not, your option is to vote for someone from a party that voted 188-1 in favor.

Of course, you can do all of the normal things that people do when they feel strongly about a political issue, like write letters to your rep and senators, to the editor of your local paper, to the ny times, organize a pac, etc..., etc..., etc...


"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good." Samuel Johnson
by MS01 Indie on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 08:46:04 PM EST
[ Parent ]

My other option (none / 0)

is to not cast a ballot; something I've already decided to do in the presidential contest.


by Coldblue on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 09:11:31 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: But what about (none / 0)

Here's what I did. I went to www.house.gov and sent a message to my congressman. Given that I live in a Bush 10+ district, I wasn't really surprised that he voted yea on this bill. I sent him the following message.

Congressman Childers,

I promoted your run for the MS01 seat with enthusiasm. I planned on contributing and volunteering for your re-election campaign for the full term. Unfortunately, your Yea vote for telco immunity has caused me to reconsider my support. I will have to think long and hard about whether I can support someone who is not going to support our constitutional rights. A yea vote on this bill was a clear vote of support for the illegal acts perpetrated by this administration. I am sorely disappointed by your vote.


"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good." Samuel Johnson
by MS01 Indie on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 11:05:03 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Now I get it. (2.00 / 1)

Thanks bro.


by UrbanRedneck on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 08:56:05 PM EST

The Senate Bats Next (2.00 / 1)

Batter Up...


by MediaFreeze on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 08:57:28 PM EST

Just show me 40... (2.00 / 1)

...brave souls!


by MediaFreeze on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 08:59:04 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Hey (2.00 / 1)

that's funny, I just checked who the lone GOP to vote against this bill was, and it happened to be Tim Johnson, from IL-15, my representative.  I guess I should feel good about that.


by semiquaver on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 09:09:24 PM EST

Re: Hey (2.00 / 2)

I'll always respect anyone who's taking a stand against the rest of his party on actual and honest principle.

Huzzah!


by Reaper0Bot0 on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 11:01:28 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Hey (2.00 / 2)

What you should do is also write a letter showing him your appreciation for his vote.  And mention that you're a Democrat.

This (if he gets enough) will stay in the back of his mind (if he's honest) and give him a buffer and comfort zone to break with his party again if he thinks he'll have backing come election time again from both sides, should he be a decent representative or represent fairly and in line with your views.


He that lives upon hope, will die fasting. -Ben Franklin
by TxDem08 on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 09:24:24 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: This is a bus... (2.00 / 1)

I just don't understand this "vote my way 100% of the time or I wont' vote for  you in November" attitude. Do some of you really have representatives that vote the way you want on every single vote? Man, are  you ever lucky if you do.

I live in MS 01. I will be very happy if my new Democratic congressman votes the way I want more than half the time, because I know the alternative wouldn't vote my way even 25% of the time.


"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good." Samuel Johnson
by MS01 Indie on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 09:31:54 PM EST

Some issues (2.00 / 1)

outweigh others, wouldn't you agree?


by Coldblue on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 09:34:53 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Some issues (2.00 / 1)

Of course. And, some issues are deal-breakers that should earn a protest vote or some other form of censure. I'm not really a one-issue voter. I'm sitting here trying to imagine what might make me vote against my rep in November... I can't think of anything that might make me mad enough to give the republican challenger a chance to win.


"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good." Samuel Johnson
by MS01 Indie on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 10:14:30 PM EST
[ Parent ]

I wish my choice (2.00 / 1)

was as easy as yours ;-)


by Coldblue on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 10:20:02 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Some issues (2.00 / 1)

I finally thought of something, corruption or some kind of nasty scandal. However, I can't think of any vote he might make that could lose my vote, for the reasons already stated.


"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good." Samuel Johnson
by MS01 Indie on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 10:28:29 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Some issues (none / 0)

I think voting yes on the FISA bill is pretty damn close to corruption.


by JustJennifer on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 11:48:19 PM EST
[ Parent ]

A "gots to go goto the hospital" (2.00 / 1)

situation. LOL

You need to update with the picture of a guy kicked in the groin since that's the third metaphor used.  A clip fro America's Funniest Home Videos works too.


Visiting the hopium dens proudly since 2007.
by AZphilosopher on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 09:33:25 PM EST

Re: A "gots to go goto the hospital" (none / 0)

read "from" for "fro". Darn typing problems.


Visiting the hopium dens proudly since 2007.
by AZphilosopher on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 03:02:28 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Lieber, I wish it were that simple. (2.00 / 4)

It's not.  128 Democrats voted nay, 105 voted yea.  That's discouraging enough, but we have to remember, this would never have come up for a vote at ALL (effectively killing it) if it weren't for a strategic decision by the House democratic leadership to let it come to a vote.  They had the votes that really mattered.

And they let us down.

And it reaches farther than that, because there were lobbyists, consultants, big fundraisers, presidential candidates and others that should have and could have put their foot down behind the scenes in a way that would have let them know, "It's not a good idea to let this come up for a vote right now."  

If this had not come up for a vote, those oh-so-worried Blue Dog Democrats would not have had to vote Yea OR Nay.  They could have coasted along, blaming it on the house leadership for not bringing up the vote.  

So there is no good excuse other than that the most powerful people in the Democratic leadership wanted this bill to pass so much that they thought it was worth the momentary heat it would generate.  That they could distract us long enough to get it passed while our attention was distracted elsewhere.  They wanted something that was important to them.

Why?  I don't know.  I find it hard to believe that it's only to grant themselves immunity, as damning as that would be.  More likely, it's just a matter of simple graft.  Or perhaps drunken promises made over cocktail weenies, maybe with a Skull and Crossbones handshake.  I don't know.

But we got screwed.  We have been screwed multiple times over the past few years.  We blamed it on Bush's high approval ratings and Republican dominance of the House and Senate.  Now we control both, Bush is in the pits, and there is no prospect of Republicans regaining control of the White House or Congress anytime in the foreseeable future.  AND THEY STILL FOLDED.

Please, let's all wake up.  This is not about any individual Democrat.  It's about an institution that is sick and needs to be cleaned up.  They are not folding.  They are doing what they really want to, and we just have not recognized it.


by Dumbo on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 09:49:27 PM EST

Re: This is a bus... (none / 0)

Well put!


www.thingsyoungerthanmccain.com
by LandStander on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 12:32:00 AM EST

This is a bus... (none / 0)

(cracking egg on hot frying pan)

This is you UNDER a bus.

Any questions?


by DawnG on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 12:39:29 AM EST

McCain Troll (none / 0)

All your doing is harming the Democrats in this election. Period.


by Grissom1001 on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 01:12:59 AM EST

Whaaaaa? (none / 0)


by Lieber on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 08:02:14 AM EST
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